In today’s episode of The Same Day Podcast, Mat Zalk is joined by Jorge Sanchez, the Owner of GM Rain Management, to discuss the fundamentals of a credible contracting business. Jorge shares his goal to repurpose rainwater, how he cultivates relationships with subcontractors, and tips and tricks for gutter cleaning and damage prevention.
Water Damage and Prevention: The Underpinnings of a Premium-Quality Contracting Business
Jorge Sanchez is the Owner of GM Rain Management, a company specializing in water diversion, damage repair, and prevention by installing gutters and drainage systems. In his spare time, he coaches two competitive soccer teams at Blitz Academy FC and a boy’s high school soccer program.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
- GM Rain Management’s founding story
- How Jorge Sanchez grew GM Rain Management through a $100K foundation repair
- Jorge’s vision for sustainable rainwater harvesting
- Gutter cleaning tips and considerations
- Strategies for collaborating with subcontractors
- Jorge shares how he systemizes and markets his business
In this episode…
Many property owners and investors don’t recognize the severity of rainwater damage. Aside from flooding, excessive rainwater can cause houses with eroded or poorly constructed foundations to sink. Today’s self-made entrepreneur has scaled his business by educating property owners and thoroughly screening subcontractors. What can you observe from his efforts?
Homeowners are often distressed and overwhelmed by the restoration levels required from rain damage. Through research, relationship-building, and an exceptional reputation, Jorge Sanchez has developed innovative solutions to clients’ problems. This includes recommending regular gutter cleanings and installations to offset the costs of foundation repairs. He maintains that conducting services with transparency and accountability while explaining how rainwater diversion boosts home value allows you to cultivate client trust.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Mat Zalk on LinkedIn
- Keyrenter Property Management
- Keyrenter Property Management Tulsa
- Keyrenter Property Management Oklahoma City
- Keyrenter Property Management Arkansas
- Keyrenter Property Management email address: [email protected]
- Chris Lile State Farm
- Chris Lile’s phone number: 918-878-7771
- Jorge Sanchez on Facebook
- GM Rain Management: Website | Facebook | Instagram
- “Revitalizing Neighborhoods With Refurbished Apartment Spaces” with Adam Rosenberg on The Same Day Podcast
- “The Elements of a Profitable Real Estate Investment Firm” with Will Karstetter on The Same Day Podcast
- Chase Chapman on LinkedIn
- Blue Dog Carpet Cleaning
- Smiley Elmore III on LinkedIn
- Eminent Media
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Episode Transcript
Intro 0:05
Welcome to The Same Day Podcast where we discuss driving incremental business growth and other topics related to real estate, property management and entrepreneurship. Now to the show at hand.
Mat Zalk 0:20
Mat Zalk Here I’m hosting The Same Day Podcast where I connect top business experts in real estate leaders. past guests include Will Karstetter discussing multiple years of buying 100 Plus doors per year and Adam Rosenberg discussing redeveloping attainable apartments for all walks of life. Today’s episode is brought to you by Chris Lile State Farm Chris Lile State Farm helps you protect your most precious assets and investments. Whether it’s your home and auto investment rental properties or other valuables called Chris Lile State Farm for a quick and painless phone call to potentially save you double digits on all of your insurance needs. Is it diallial.com or call his office at 918-878-7771 Today’s episode is also brought to you by Keyrenter Property Management, Keyrenter Property Management we are a full service property management company helping our clients buy renovate and operate real estate assets. We help our clients build wealth while taking the headache out of property management was an Jorge you know how hard it is to line up contractors to get make readies done in a reasonable amount of time. If you don’t have the scale that Keyrenter has. Contractors are busy that work seems to drag on forever and all that leads to lost rental income. It’s especially important with guttering where there can be damage to gutters, overflowing gutters, and a bunch of other things like what happened during the recent Father’s Day storms where so much destruction from trees took place and they landed on gutters oftentimes, but that’s why I keep render we line up our dedicated vendors so that turns can happen quickly. We can get money back into the pockets of our owners and our tenants are less upset about damage that occurs to properties. And that’s why no matter what rentals you have single family homes, condos, townhomes, we have the management solutions you need to go to keyrenterpmc.com or email us at [email protected]. Today’s guest is Jorge Sanchez. He’s the owner of GM Rain Management a company specializing in water diversion, moving water away from your home or commercial property to preserve the integrity of your foundation and building. He holds he coaches to competitive soccer teams at blitz Academy FC and Tulsa and he coaches the soccer program at Booker T the boys program at Booker T. Washington High School, Jorge Sanchez, welcome to the show. How are you?
Jorge Sanchez 2:19
I’m great, Matt,
Mat Zalk 2:21
you are all smiles over there. Yeah, always. I love it. Tell us briefly how you got started with GM Rain Management and how you got involved in this business.
Jorge Sanchez 2:35
Wow. So you kind of know a little bit about the story, right. But let’s see, ultimately, it began when back in like 2019 2020. I was working for a leasing company, here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, but my mom and her boyfriend had an idea to start like a gutter company. And so every weekend, I’d go out and help with some installations. And ultimately, I would get sent out to go pick up materials, sometimes I’d learn how to bid jobs. And I like numbers. And I like math. So ultimately, I started seeing like the ROI, right, the return on investment. And understanding that, you know, there’s margins that can be played with and this is like selling a product and a service. And that’s what it boils down to. So I just had some guidance, I had a couple friends that told me you know, what would you rather do stay clocked in nine to five or like, be able to work for yourself and like, you know, dictate the amount of money and income that you might be able to make, and then also grow something else at the same time. And so from there, I just had my wheels turning and then I built up the courage to just say, You know what, like, you know, I think this is the route that I’m gonna go. And since then I haven’t looked back. Cool.
Mat Zalk 3:51
So you, you basically took the idea that your mom and her boyfriend had you ran with it business owner? What are some what are some recent successes that you’ve seen in the business? Some great stories or other fun things?
Jorge Sanchez 4:04
Sure. Yeah. So as soon as I kind of had a split with them, and you know, we decided to sell some, because we faced some challenges before I’ve had those successes, right? Where I had to pivot and get creative. And ultimately, my mother and her boyfriend decided to sell the company. So their portion of like, absolutely everything there, all the equipment and stuff that molded the guts. So at that point, I had to again, you know, get creative and just try to get shifty. I picked up a few more products, and I started subcontract and building crews. And the biggest success story that I had was from that problem, being able to find a solution. And ultimately, like literally, let’s say four months after that, after that change. I ended up closing the biggest cell of my life where it was a six figure six figure job involved a foundation repair, which is one of the sub products and services that I picked up. And it also involved a French drain install. So that way we can just reroute all the water that was pulling around the base and the foundation of the home. And that was ultimately my biggest success story. I think the end ticket was about $105,000. And
Mat Zalk 5:23
what was the what was the general situation in that scenario? So
Jorge Sanchez 5:27
I got a call from a client and she, she basically just walked me around her property. As soon as I got to the property itself, I noticed that there was a ton of standing water. And the last time we had rain was a week ago. Which is pretty, pretty crazy. So I just did my due did the due diligence and just walked around the property made sure that the sediment was something that we really like paid attention to, we dug into a couple of test holes, we realized that she was practically sitting on some sand. And all the land grading that had been done with just pitched the water back towards her home. So slowly, but surely Her house was sinking. And we I got my foundation crew out there. And we did a couple more surveys, we definitely found out that it was just sitting on like, very fine sand. And so we just got to work, we got to work and try to find, you know, solid ground by doing exterior piers, all around the house, which totaled out to be around like 5050 exterior piers. Wow, it was a pretty, pretty big house, a two story, you know, 4000 square foot house. So we were trying to do our best to prevent it or at least slow the problem.
Mat Zalk 6:39
And you think that that issue was specific to her house and her ladder, the whole neighborhood would have been built on sand. And
Jorge Sanchez 6:46
that’s the thing, the whole neighborhood, right? Because I look across and it’s practice. That’s what happens in smaller towns. Sometimes bigger home builders want to go out and make maybe make like a half a million dollar house, or maybe six $700,000 house to make that could come up. And the quickest, the best thing that they can do or what they think right? It’s just a bring in a bunch of material. They just throw it down and try to make a base. But they don’t care about the like, the long term right? At the end of the day. Is sales a sale for them. Yeah. So
Mat Zalk 7:19
in that situation you have a bunch of water. Did she have guttering with? Did you come in and do the guttering also? Or was it that the guttering really didn’t matter? Because they’re all the rain from the from the yard was actually just coming back to the house and settling. So in that sense, the gutters didn’t really matter. What you have to do is you have to do is regrade the ground, pier the house and then move the water away from the house ultimately.
Jorge Sanchez 7:39
Exactly, exactly. So their gutter system was fine. I went up and checked it, I did all make sure the pitching was right. I actually tied in every single downspout into the drainage system that we installed. So that way the water was instantly diverted away from the foundation. So that way it was preserving. And just protecting the end, especially protecting the work that we just did with all the with all the exterior peers. There’s no way I mean, the gutter installers and French drain installs are about 90% of the cost of what a foundation repair could be. So it’s it’s basically being pre proactive versus reactive. And just making sure that we’re not going to further cause damage. We’re not going to just have facet job. We want to go in and make sure that we’re doing the right thing and then protecting our work that has been done. Yeah.
Mat Zalk 8:28
So how does the client respond, when they come in, they say my gutters are broken, and we’re leaking water and you come in and say that’s true, your gutters are broken, we need to fix your gutters. But ultimately, we’re diverting water away from the house, it runs uphill, and then it runs straight back into your house and need peering in need a whole French drain system and a tightline system that draws the water away from the house. What you thought was a small problem that would be fixed with guttering is ultimately a fairly substantial problem. But if you want to fix it, right, you got to do all this stuff. How do people react to that?
Jorge Sanchez 9:00
So you get all sorts of reactions, sometimes it just depends on on the person really, it depends on the relationship that you built with the person and how you how credible you’ve built yourself. And just ultimately, the my client that I had that success story with, she was very, very shocked. She was very just bewildered right that the Oklahoma builders would do that. Yeah, she’s from Mexico. So she hasn’t dealt with anything like that. And she just really felt wronged by let’s say, like the home, the home builders and people and she would do her, you know, her research. She was asking the neighbors, Hey, are you guys having similar problems? So it just, it just startled her. But you know, she understood. She understood that if she wants Steven keep equity in that property, and to be able to make it sellable and in the future so that she needed to do this, this work, so that way it could hold its value. Yeah.
Mat Zalk 9:58
So let’s talk about the The entirety the services that you provide, you provide any sort of guttering service, right. So whether it’s repair, replacement, do you also do cleaning of gutters? That’s right. Yeah. Okay, good. And then you, you will come in, and you’ll make sure that the grading of the soil away from the house is done properly, if that needs to happen, and you’ll install piers or do foundation work for residential or commercial buildings, to preserve and protect the foundation of that property to avoid problems down the line. Is there anything else that you’re working on in your business?
Jorge Sanchez 10:33
So you know, end goal with GM Rain Management, I’d love to end up repurposing rainwater. And, yeah, it would be pretty cool product, pretty cool service. And also just something great for people that like to have that sustainable lifestyle. And if they could take the rain that falls onto their roof down into their gutters, put them into a drainage system, and then holding tanks, right, and then have pumps that recycle that back into a filtration system, all sorts of filters using UV light. So that way, you know we get rid of all sorts of bacteria, but purifying the water. So that way you can use it for shower water, you can use it for to wash dishes in the sink, all sorts of stuff. And even if you can’t, you know, like the end goal, right would be making it possible to drink.
Mat Zalk 11:23
Pretty amazing. What what’s the average rainfall in Tulsa per year, and what’s the average consumption of water for a household of chocolate.
Jorge Sanchez 11:32
So the average rainfall per year is 33.6 inches. So ultimately with that, I mean, we get the heaviest rainfall in April in May. And then we don’t see much throughout the summer until like October. In a year, the average for a household and like, I’ll tell you right now my household we go through, there’s yeah, there’s a good four of us who were probably going through, I’d say about four, three to four packs of 4040 water bottles. So
Mat Zalk 12:06
So could you could you sustainably harvest enough water if you had 10,000 gallon tanks, one or two of them, I wonder how much rain you’d have to have, what size roof you need, the calculation must be the the size of the roof going into the water that collects going into the gutter that size of the tanks and then how often it rains such that you you hold whatever and then on the consumption side, need to figure out how much consumption you’ve got to be very interesting to run tight lines. Like at my house, we’ve got the tight lines run the all the gutters will flow into the tight lines. If that if that could be harvested into a tank, maybe two. I think I’ve got three places where the water diversities I could put 310 1000 gallon tanks and somehow figure out how to run that back into the waterline. That’d be very interesting. Yeah,
Jorge Sanchez 12:49
yeah, I think it’d be a project that’d be very, very great to start. It’d be interesting to see how that plays out. And we got players
Mat Zalk 12:58
who who’s the first person that you need to build on your team to get that project started? So I’m going to do is I’ll see exactly how many I don’t know, he’s got a whole program, but sets like living this sustainable off grid lifestyle. I mean, he’s got some crazy things, including, what does he have? He’s got like, I forget what he’s got, but that he showed me in his garage. It’s a Yeess somehow, like an electric. Like his hot water tank somehow also uses these to cool his house somehow. Remember the whole thing? So
Jorge Sanchez 13:34
yeah, he gave me a walkthrough right. So as he has this hot water tank that pulls the heat from the attic. So heat exchanger somehow. Yeah, to kind of like heat the water that he uses. And then it’s just so like, efficient, and he just has ultimately, he built an efficient homestead. It seems like and he’s paying like 70 bucks for electricity a month, and it just blows my mind.
Mat Zalk 13:58
Yeah, pretty wild. Anyways, the next step to that is driving, driving that well deep into the ground and doing the geothermal energy. But you don’t have to pay anything for electricity for your heating and air in summer and gas and winter. Let’s talk for a second about solutions for gutter cleaning and potentially doing it less frequently. It’s a big it’s a big expense in most people’s houses, especially if you have a bigger house and we got to clean out, you know, tons of guttering. How often should that be done generally speaking in a in a season to ensure or in the year to ensure that your that your gutter is flowing properly.
Jorge Sanchez 14:34
So it’d be about three to four times a year. Especially Yeah, three to four times a year people like that sweet spot at three. And the things that you can do to kind of help maintain a clean system is install gutter screens, right there’s a leaf blaster pro that’s on the market, and it’s a fine mesh screen that is even marketed towards keeping insects out. Right so you’re not breeding any sorts of like Um, mosquitoes or any mosquito larvae or anything like that. So ultimately, if you can whittle down the the exposure of like that open gutter face, then you can die, you could just move those leaves off. Sometimes the you could clean the leaf blaster pros from the ground down with like a Swiffer duster. Wow, you don’t have to get stung. So
Mat Zalk 15:23
it’s, it’s not like the leaves that normally went into your gutter are now just sitting on top and clogged from the top. Those are those blow off and don’t end up smelling and sitting on top of the screen. Right, right. Interesting. So in an ideal situation, if you’re not going to just take a Swiffer and do that, would you just have somebody get up on a ladder and kind of blow it out with a, a power washer or something? Or is that not even, it’s
Jorge Sanchez 15:47
not even a power washer? You can like without the screens? With what the screens all with the screens that you can just from the ground just use a leaf blower? Yeah, definitely the leaf blower and it just really depends, right? And there’s corners, right? That not might be maintenance. So if it’s an inside corner, there’s going to be a splash guard. Sometimes behind that there are leaves that can accumulate, just have to get up and just pull those out. But you’re not cleaning over 200 linear feet of gutters, you’re not getting up and down the ladder, let’s say 20 times to be able to cover those 10 feet lengths. And it’s just every time you get up and down the ladder. It’s it’s dangerous, right? You can slip you can fall, the ladder can topple over. So you’re running risk there. And ultimately people pay for convenience. But also health and safety is the most important thing. Yeah,
Mat Zalk 16:40
absolutely. Health and safety and just OSHA I was on a letter the other day and somebody yelled at me. They’re like, Hey, you’re not you’re not using that ladder property. You got to face the ladder not away. I’m an OSHA, specialized certified seven, seven, I was like, Alright, man, I turn the ladder on base the ladder and I continue doing what I was doing. Do you when you have your subs for for installation of the of the actual gutters or the foundations or whatever else? How do you find those subs that have big jobs? How do you ensure that they’re that they’re doing high quality work? And I tell you, that’s a pain point for us. And we go through long guys during the summer. And you know, it’s not it’s not glorious, high paying work, it’s 40 $50 a yard and people have a tendency to burn out. And then all of a sudden, we think that a majority had been done, but the person just disappeared. And we’re like going back to square one trying to figure out who our next sub is on that on that topic or on that, for that job. How do you how do you vet your guys? And how do you make sure that they’re doing consistently good work? And it’s?
Jorge Sanchez 17:38
That’s a great question. It’s a bunch of quality checks, really holding them accountable, but in the sense of not hovering over them. Yeah. But just building a great relationship with them. I have a relationship with most of my contractors that I invite them out to my birthday parties. Yeah. And they come out and any anytime, like if there’s a comedy show happening, I mean, I invite them out to different things like that. I have a People to People business, is what it ends up being it doesn’t matter if it’s me to a client. Ultimately, it’s me to the contractors as well, right, those subs that I have, they’re helping me put food on the table, and it’s vice versa. So at the end of the day, we’re all here for the same reasons right happiness, and it’s a proper, it’s a prosper. Yeah. So when you get down to that level and find out, everyone’s kind of like, what what their, what’s important to them. And you can key in on that. They do they do well by you. And ultimately, yeah, I go back and follow up, do my quality checks.
Mat Zalk 18:37
The hard part about working with subs is that you’ve got to be to your point to business a bit. It’s a person a person business, sometimes you have to hold them accountable for making mistakes, they’ve got to pay for it. If if it’s their mistake, the challenge with contractors all the time is that they people will try to pass the buck, they say no, in your case, the drip edge wasn’t installed properly, or the the the soffit or the facia was crooked or this out of the other becomes really difficult to actually hold people’s feet to the fire and hold them accountable. If you’ve got that people that people business, you’ll get another I guess you get more bees with honey than vinegar, you can you can hold people more accountable in a gentle way. If you’ve put more deposits in the emotional bank account, you said I know that somebody else messed this up a little bit do me a favor and make the straight. Because you know we do a lot of business together and I know you and I like you and I trust you etcetera and and vice versa. But that’s a real hard part about working with subs especially on the building or development of a house. And you may come in at the beginning you may work with a builder and you may come in you know at the beginning before the House is occupied, you may come in 10 years down the road or 20 years down the road. And you know you never know what you’re going to find whether the framers did a good job or whether it was already would rot behind the the you know, the gutter that’s existing that you’re replacing, etc. So having that people two people perspective that that meant Tality that we’re all in this together, and we’re all here to help each other succeed is a critical part of that. Ultimately holding people accountable or getting a little bit extra at people when when you, you know, when you need to for the sake of the successful client outcome.
Jorge Sanchez 20:14
Exactly, exactly. And, and when we get to those points, if there are anything like, you know, pointing the finger, this, this isn’t that you know what you’re doing, right? When, when they’re out there, those subs know what they’re doing. So if they, if they’re going to install over someone else’s bad work, then ultimately it’s on them, you know, if it does come back to you, there’s no finger pointing, they should just go in pointed right back at themselves and say kindly, you knew, you knew. So you could have just called me you could have stopped taking a break, sent me a picture, I could go out there, I’ll fix it, you know, or I follow up with other individuals that may have had a hand in the project and see what’s going on. See why this was done like that. And just finding solutions instead of just like passing the buck, like you said, yeah. What
Mat Zalk 21:01
systems in your business? Are you looking to improve? Right now we’re working on improving.
Jorge Sanchez 21:05
So um, my processes, right, like the way that I send estimates, the way that I keep estimate files, right, and I’m using Google Docs, I have like a whole, a whole file of just straight estimates, people in contractors, I’m looking to maybe jump into more of like a CRM to keep track of individuals a bit better, and, and projects so that way, it’s not keeping so much space occupied in my head. I
Mat Zalk 21:37
know my friend Chase Chapman with Blue Dog carpet cleaning uses house call Pro, I don’t have any experience with house call Pro. And I’m not a salesperson for house call Pro. But he seems to love that he recommends that all the time, trying to build their business in the contracting space and just keep track of you know, who they’re calling, what estimates have been sent, what work has been done, following up to make sure they get reviews, etc. All this stuff is super important in helping to grow your business. What what are you doing on the marketing side to make sure that you’re getting a continuous stream of inbound client calls?
Jorge Sanchez 22:05
So I actually have a partner, his name is Smiley, Elmore than a third. And yeah, he owns Eminent Media Marketing, here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And, you know, there you go, that’s my guy, I got to college, shout out, shout out Smiley. Now he does great, great work, anything that has to do with, you know, websites, the online marketing space, SEO, right, the search engine optimization, I didn’t, I was a toddler when it came to this. And he’s taught me so much, and how all these article posts, these blog posts, all these things that his team writes on a week to week monthly basis, what generate organic flow to your website, it will also like shoot you up on the list when people get when they Google certain phrases, certain words, it’ll shoot you up top of the list, and you’ll your website comes up first. So ultimately, you know, having the right people around you that specialize in their craft, that’s the biggest thing I’ve learned this this whole time is I know I’m good at sales, I know I’m good at talking to people. If if that’s my forte, then I need to like specialize in that and bring in other people to kind of like work with those weaknesses, and smiley up in man working with him for the past two, two and a half years. And, and, again, it’s just been nothing but nothing but success is like he’s creating those lead flows and sending the emails with, hey, this person exists, this person needs that. And I’m pretty sure he’s working on optimizing his, like automation to have that stuff just sent over automatically. But that’s, that’s, that’s what I do. And you know, the same people to people, business to business face to face sales. It’s not, it’s nothing that I’m like stranger to Yeah, I did it back in 2019. You know, people to people just go in business to business trying to sell them a product or service. So walking into a few places dropping off my car and making an impression talking to someone like their people. Yeah, you know, the best the best marketing is you know, word of mouth.
Mat Zalk 24:12
What as a young entrepreneur, what keeps you up at night? Are you sleeping well.
Jorge Sanchez 24:22
I have a lot on my mind, a lot on my mind. Sometimes I’m just trying to make sure that everyone’s getting taken care of making sure that all the subs all my contractors, business owners that I work with key renter, make sure that they that they got everything that they need, and that I’m being prompt and timely and professional. That that’s my biggest thing. I’d hate to just be late, late on a couple of things, whether it’s an invoice, whether it’s an estimate, whether it’s documentation that needs to be didn’t end to be able to start projects. That that keeps me up at night making sure that that I deliver. And yet I don’t forget,
Mat Zalk 25:09
spring up from sleep and do a fully 90 degree angle and go, Oh my god, I forgot to send that email to somebody that I promised. I had an I had an experience early on I live and die by my calendar. If it’s not on my calendar, it does not exist much to my wife’s chagrin. And I had two meetings that I never had somehow, like this is probably 20 or very early 2018 two meetings with an investor that had two properties or three properties now in Broken Arrow and I really wanted to manage those properties. He was looking for a property manager and I missed two meetings somehow because they just never ended up on my calendar and I was after the first one that I missed. I was like, I’m so sorry, this never happens to me. Everything’s on my calendar and I live and die by my calendar and then it happened a second time and I never heard from him again. It still haunts me it still haunts me because I put everything on my counter. But I tell you I’ll call you back in half an hour I put it on my calendar because I will never remember there’s this squirrel brain situation or monkey brain or whatever it is we’re like something pops up in your email something pops up on your you know Facebook, LinkedIn whatever and you start doing a call comes in from a tenant a call comes in from an owner and you forget until the next day and you’re like who I was supposed to call this person back. Yeah. So I spring to I spring to life at 3am on you know on a weekly basis and go oh my god, I forgot to call this person and I’ll you know, hammer out either a calendar invite me go back to bed to myself or hammer out an email right then and be like, I totally forgot. Whatever and then we’re getting emails from you. 3am wondering. Yeah, I live the life of an entrepreneur and your brain never turns off. Don’t be a challenge. Jorge Sanchez is the owner of GM Rain Management, a company specializing in water diversion that’s moving water away from your home or commercial property to preserve the integrity of your foundation and building. He coaches to competitive soccer teams which we didn’t touch on today. He coaches at blitz Academy FC Tulsa and he coaches soccer at Booker T Washington for the boys program. You can find Jorge at Tulsarainmanagement.com or on Facebook at GM Rain Management Jorge. How else can people reach out to you if they want to find you?
Jorge Sanchez 25:10
Yeah, look me up on Facebook. Look me up on Instagram, right GM_rain_management. But ultimately Facebook, my numbers out there. You know, I’m here for for to answer any questions, provide any estimates providing knowledge really, ultimately and educate individuals that need that need help.
Mat Zalk 27:34
All right. Thank you for being on the show. We appreciate you and appreciate GM Rain Management for sharing our business.
Jorge Sanchez 27:42
Thank you, Mat. Thanks for having me.
Outro 27:47
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