In this episode of The Same Day Podcast, Yoni Schmidt speaks with Lane Kawaoka, Founder of The Wealth Elevator, to discuss the key stages of building generational wealth through real estate. They explore how to transition from single rentals to syndication deals, why property management is essential for scalability, and how diversification protects long-term returns. Lane also shares how AI and community-driven investing are reshaping the future of real estate education.
Building Multimillion-Dollar Wealth Through Strategic Real Estate Investing With Lane Kawaoka
Lane Kawaoka is the Founder of The Wealth Elevator, a real estate investment and education platform that empowers professionals to build generational wealth through private deals and practical strategies. As an investor and entrepreneur, Lane has raised over $230 million in capital and acquired control of more than $2.1 billion in commercial real estate assets. Formerly a professional engineer, he is passionate about democratizing wealth creation and helping others escape the traditional rat race, using his own journey from W-2 employee to full-time investor as inspiration.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
- [03:44] Lane Kawaoka’s key rules that fueled a $2.1B portfolio
- [06:23] Why professional property management is crucial for risk reduction
- [08:16] How property managers shield owners from costly legal battles
- [11:03] The biggest mistakes new investors make
- [13:37] Reasons why 401(k)s and Wall Street may trap your wealth
- [15:51] Comparing direct real estate investing versus retail investment products
- [18:15] How AI is transforming real estate investment and education
- [22:45] Insider tips on joining Lane’s exclusive investor community and masterminds
In this episode…
Most people dream of building financial freedom, but few truly understand how to scale their investments strategically. What separates everyday investors from those who create multimillion-dollar portfolios that generate lasting wealth? And how can ordinary professionals start climbing that ladder without sacrificing time or peace of mind?
According to Lane Kawaoka, a real estate investor and educator who has managed over $2.1 billion in assets, the key lies in mastering what he calls “floors” of the wealth elevator. He highlights that early investors should focus on small rental properties, leveraging professional property managers to free up their time for higher-value work. As one’s net worth grows past seven figures, the strategy shifts toward syndications and passive investments that reduce risk and liability while multiplying returns. Lane emphasizes that true wealth comes from understanding your “highest and best use,” building diversified portfolios across markets, and creating systems that turn real estate into a scalable, sustainable business.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Yonatan Schmidt on LinkedIn
- Mat Zalk on LinkedIn
- Keyrenter Property Management
- Keyrenter Property Management in Tulsa | Oklahoma City | Arkansas
- Keyrenter Property Management email address: [email protected]
- Lane Kawaoka on LinkedIn
- The Wealth Elevator: Website | Email
- The Wealth Elevator: Real Estate Syndications, Accredited Investor Banking, and Tax Strategies for First-Gen Millionaires by Lane Kawaoka
- The Wealth Elevator
- “Exploring New Possibilities in Entrepreneurship” with Chip Gaberino on The Same Day Podcast
- “Revitalizing Communities Through Multi-Concept Restaurant Development” with Elliot Nelson on The Same Day Podcast
- “How Property Managers Should Handle ICE Requests and Protect Tenant Privacy With Monica Gilroy” on The Same Day Podcast
- BiggerPockets
Quotable Moments
- “You guys got to figure out what your highest and best use is.”
- “It’s not a matter of if, but when you’re going to get sued by tenants.”
- “The beauty of the LP position is limited partner, limited liability.”
- “Test apart a portfolio, especially if you’re brand new to this, and arm yourself with a community and people around you that also do it.”
- “You have to put on some pants literally, right, and meet people.”
Action Steps
- Identify your “highest and best use”: Focusing on what you do best allows you to maximize income potential and accelerate wealth building.
- Leverage professional property management: Delegating day-to-day operations reduces liability and frees your time to acquire more assets strategically.
- Scale from rentals to syndications: Transitioning into larger commercial investments diversifies your portfolio and unlocks higher, more stable returns.
- Diversify across markets and asset classes: Spreading investments geographically and by type protects against market downturns and enhances long-term growth.
- Invest in community and education: Surrounding yourself with experienced investors and mentors accelerates learning, helps avoid costly mistakes, and builds lasting wealth.
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Episode Transcript
Intro 00:04
Welcome to The Same Day Podcast, where we discuss driving incremental business growth and other topics related to real estate, property management and entrepreneurship. Now to the show at hand.
Yonatan Schmidt 00:20
Hi there, Yoni Schmidt here hosting today’s episode of The Same Day Podcast where I connect with top business and real estate leaders. Past guests include Chip Gaberino, a local restaurateur entrepreneur in the Tulsa, Oklahoma market. Elliot Nelson, the CEO of the Mcnellie’s Group, Monica Gilroy of the Gilroy firm, and many, many, many more. Today’s episode is brought to you by Keyrenter Property Management. At Keyrenter Property Management, we are a full service property management company helping our clients buy, renovate and operate real estate assets.
We help our clients build wealth while taking the headache out of property management. That is why no matter what rental you have single family homes, condos, townhouses, apartments. We have the management solutions for you. Go to keyrenterpmc.com or info or email us at [email protected]. Today I’m excited to welcome Lane Kawaoka, the Founder of The Wealth Elevator, a prolific real estate investor, educator, and former professional engineer turned full time entrepreneur.
After raising over $230 million in capital and acquiring control of over $2.1 billion in commercial real estate assets, Lane is on a mission to democratize wealth creation and empower everyday professionals to escape the rat race. Through his podcast, books, mastermind groups, and educational platform, Lane provides access to exclusive private investment deals and practical wealth building strategies. He is passionate about helping others shrinking. He’s passionate about helping shrinking the middle class and building generational wealth on their own terms. Welcome to the show, Lane, and thank you for being here.
Lane Kawaoka 01:56
Yeah, thanks for having me. Hello, everybody.
Yonatan Schmidt 01:59
Elaine, let’s talk a little bit about how you left secure a secured engineering job to focus full time on real estate investments. What was the moment that you made that leap? And do you ever, you know, miss the W-2 life?
Lane Kawaoka 02:12
Okay, so I was working my engineering job, picking up little rental properties, living that dual life that I think a lot of the listeners might be doing right now. And you’re probably have your earbuds in at work or doing emails when you’re on the toilet, you know, doing that type of stuff, hopefully not bugging your property manager too, too much. But yeah, like I did that from 2009 to 2015, you know, started with a few rental properties in Seattle, Washington. And then I went out of state by properties in Birmingham, Atlanta, Indianapolis. And, you know, I probably would have bought more and more rental properties as I kind of lived a double life, you know, drive the Mercedes to work.
Everybody kind of scratches your head. What the heck does that guy do? They didn’t know I had 11 rental properties at the time. Probably would have kept doing that. But, you know, in 2016, 17 started to go down the syndication path.
And then that ultimately created a second job for myself, which made me ultimately quit my day job. But if not, I’d probably be still rocking out, probably in a government shutdown. So like probably be milking the clock right now, some easy job and have, you know, probably have a lot more rental properties at this point.
Yonatan Schmidt 03:24
Yeah. Well, well, so far you’ve built a portfolio worth over $2.1 billion. What were some of the key principles or rules you followed to scale so successfully, especially, as you know, call it a middle class professional that was starting out?
Lane Kawaoka 03:44
Yeah, there’s there’s a few inflection points looking back. And that’s kind of the basis of my new book, The Wealth Elevator. There’s different floors of the wealth elevator. And as you transcend different floors, the rules and strategies Change. When I first started, I graduated college with a good engineering job, was able to save $30,000 per year.
You know, I wasn’t yet an accredited investor yet my net worth was zero. So the name of the game or you know, what I call in the book, the first floor of the wealth elevator by little rental properties. Get professional property managers to do your work so you can focus on your highest and best use. Which for me was at my day job. If you’re a doctor that’s been playing doctor, if you’re a dentist that’s drilling teeth, you know, not necessarily messing around with fixing and flipping, you know, for some of the white collar professionals out there, but definitely leveraging a property manager to kind of, you know, like freeing you up so you can spend more time making more money and acquiring more, more assets.
So I would say like around 2015, I had 11 rental properties and it was starting to becoming a bit of a headache for, I think at the time, you know, a few hundred bucks of cash flow per property, you know, $3,000 for 11 properties. Not bad. But, you know, I would say most of my clients look for like ten, $15,000 of passive cash flow from a portfolio. So you probably need to triple or quadruple that had that unit count at that point, and also triple and quadruple that that the headaches and more importantly, when you become an accredited investor, you get on the second floor of the elevator. The legal liabilities, like getting sued by all those tenants, become a lot more.
It will happen at that point. It’s not a matter of when, but if, or if or when. So yeah, that’s kind of that. I would say the big for a lot of listeners, that’s I think you get to that point where you’re transcending from the first floor to the second floor to the elevator to put my finger on it. It’s when your net worth goes over 1 million.
Yonatan Schmidt 05:45
Yeah. Wow. So talk to me a little bit about, you know, how crucial is it to have, you know, professional property management in place? You know, when you’re when you’re scaling your portfolio of rentals, right? I mean, you talked a little bit about not not if but when you get sued by, you know, a resident, which we, you know, are quite familiar with managing about 3500 doors in seven different markets.
But, you know, what’s the role of the property manager in your mind when it comes to mitigating those risks for you?
Lane Kawaoka 06:23
Yeah, I mean, at our peak we’ve had like I think over five, 10,000 units. So unfortunately when you have that many, there’s a lot of pools in there. And, you know, people have accidents. And, you know, I can’t tell you how many people, you know, it’s really sad, right? Like, people commit suicide all the time.
And now luckily, no, you know, knock on wood, nobody really comes after you for that because it’s self-inflicted. But you get craziest of things, right? And and most of the time they’re just trying to work the lawyer to get your insurance payout. But either way, you typically have to spend 20 $50,000 to defend yourself for some stupid, frivolous case. You know, the way we take ownership of properties, you know, we bring in investors as passive investors, L.P. so even further behind the lines, some would say, you know, that’s the beauty of LP position, limited partner, limited liability.
But yeah, you know like we also use third party property management to it adds another layer of insurance protection in there. Now I’m not giving anybody legal advice. I’m just telling you as an owner of thousands of units, you know, going through the process many, many times, you know, that’s it is a nice layer of protection there. In addition, and you know, we are the way we take ownership of properties is in a syndication group, I think, which also gives us a little bit more protection. But as being the the sole owner managing member.
You know, you’re on the front lines, right? You’re the one making all the decisions. I think it’s kind of silly. People have this false insecurity of, oh, I got umbrella insurance or I own it in an LLC, an entity, they don’t care. You still got to defend yourself, bro.
Right?
Yonatan Schmidt 08:14
Yeah.
Lane Kawaoka 08:16
But yeah, yeah. Having that third party property manager or at least to point the finger at, you know, or at least somebody to kind of help pick up insurance costs, you know, or blame legally. I think that’s, that’s you know, I think that’s a no brainer, especially if you’re still in the first floor of the wealth elevator trying to build your net worth. You need to take on a little bit more risk to get there. I think you got to go in with a PM.
Yonatan Schmidt 08:40
Because that PM will ultimately reduce the level of liability for you, the owner, and remove a certain level of responsibility as well.
Lane Kawaoka 08:50
Yeah. Yeah, I think you’re right. I’m not giving any legal advice. right? But what I can say is definitely when stuff hits the fan, there’s another person to blame out there, and that’s essentially what litigations are.
They’re just settlements at the end of the day. And and you know, if you have another party in there like that, it just gives another option. Now what you do with that option is going to be up to you, but it always is nice when you have a professional company in there. You know, who’s you know who’s got their own insurance policy. Of course.
Check that. Right. But you know, that’s from a from a management standpoint. It’s like I tell all my investors, you guys got to figure out what your highest and best use is. It for most of my clientele, you know, guys who are accredited investors, they typically make multiple six figures at their day job.
It certainly isn’t, you know, going in there changing light bulbs or arranging contractors and stuff like that. You know, that’s that’s just, you know, not in their pay level or their hourly rate range. Now.
Yonatan Schmidt 09:50
Yeah.
Lane Kawaoka 09:50
If you’re a guy who makes under 5100 grand per year at a day job, then perhaps you may have to get your sleeves dirty and, you know, do the PM work yourself to save 10%, right? Like that’s the that’s I forget that internet form out there, but that’s their their attitude. Right? They have a lot of broke investors, broke people.
Yonatan Schmidt 10:08
Bigger pockets.
Lane Kawaoka 10:10
Broke people. Yeah. You know so anyway.
Yonatan Schmidt 10:13
Never heard of it. So that’s interesting.
Lane Kawaoka 10:15
But yeah they they always talk about, you know, saving the 10% and not paying a property manager. Right. Things on the cheap. Very scarcity minded if you ask me. But from a business perspective it’s like yeah, if you if you make under a certain amount of, of money then yeah, you need to get your hands dirty.
Right. Just like a lot of my investors, once you get to the second floor of the wealth elevator, you know, it makes a little more sense to go into deals as a passive LP than to be the operational partner.
Yonatan Schmidt 10:47
Yeah. Makes sense. Let’s talk a little bit about your community platform, the wealth elevator. You know, it’s all about education, right? What are the biggest misconceptions or mistakes that you see from first time investors that are coming in and they want to work with you?
Lane Kawaoka 11:03
Yeah, I mean, we typically do an onboarding call with everybody. And, you know, if they don’t, especially if they aren’t able to book, right, if they read the book, the first step is always figuring out what floor the elevator you’re at. You know, ultimately, what’s your cattle grade, what’s your net worth and what’s your income? Like I said, if you’re somebody who makes under 50 $100,000 a year and a net worth under half $1 million, you’re probably going to be in the basement level of the wealth elevator. Don’t listen to me.
Don’t even go to my basement.
Yonatan Schmidt 11:35
So you don’t even start on, well, 0 or 1. You’re you’re you’re in the basement.
Lane Kawaoka 11:40
I mean, that’s and that’s why I wrote the book. Because there wasn’t many books written out there for guys who are pretty decent with their money, you know, make good some good income or business owners. You know, a lot of Dave Ramsey’s personal finance books that I enjoyed. You know, when I was kind of broke myself, you know, as a college student. You know, I used to read Kiplinger Magazine and Money Magazine when I was a teenager.
Kind of one of those weirdos. But what do you do when you make a good six figure, multiple six figure job? Or you run your own business and your time is more valuable than money? You know, some investors who already, you know, have great incomes, they may just step over little rental property ownership and go straight to single syndications and private placements. Some people do a little bit of a hybrid where they may, you know, they they may live in Oklahoma and they might want to own some local rental properties, of course, get a PM to do it, to do the management.
But they like the pride of ownership. But, you know, to me, like you want to be diversified, right? Not only in real estate but geographically in real estate. So that’s where the syndication world opens you up to, you know, owning an apartment in Dallas, owning an apartment in Florida, owning an apartment in Denver, whatever, but also other asset classes to other than multifamily apartments. I mean, I kind of specialize in multifamily apartments.
You know, it was great for me on the on the run up. But when the, you know, the commercial real estate came down 20, 30% off the peaks these last several years, I got hurt pretty bad.
Yonatan Schmidt 13:14
Yeah. Let’s talk a little bit about diversification, because you’ve said before that, you know, Wall Street robs people and 401 s are trap. Not something that I completely disagree with you, but can you break it down? You know, what do you mean by that? And what what the average investor, you know, could be doing differently?
Lane Kawaoka 13:37
Yeah. I mean, if you’re talking about the average investor, they should they should do exactly what they tell people to do. Right, to invest in alternative investments, like what we’re talking about is not what the average person should do. And everything I’m saying is not financial advice, because I’m not a certified financial planner, apparently. If not, I probably have to charge you and also put you in marketable securities where I get paid off of that.
Right? But yeah, this you know, I don’t think everybody should own a rental property. You know, you need you need to not be an idiot. Unfortunately, most people out there are should not be investors, and they should just go into like ETFs and the standard American investment diet.
Yonatan Schmidt 14:19
Right. Yeah.
Lane Kawaoka 14:20
But if I think it makes sense to try it a little bit right. Test apart a portfolio, especially if you’re brand new to this and arm yourself with a community and people around you that also do it. And then, you know, eventually, you know, the people that I hang out with, they have mainly majority of their their net worth and alternative investments, things off of like your retail investment fund. And that’s my big problem. You know, like like REITs, real estate investment trusts, they invest in the same type of assets that we do.
Sometimes we even compete with them on the bidding table. The problem with that, that I see is that you got all these middlemen, right? You’re taking on all the risks and they’re taking all the returns. I mean, how else do they have these big institutional buildings and the marketing firm, you know, whereas what I like to do is, you know, whether you’re a little landlord and you’re buying the investment yourself or you’re investing directly with the GP sponsor, you’re cutting out all these middlemen and more of those returns go to you. Of course, you have to do your due diligence and working with good, honest people and looking at the deal yourself.
But, you know, I think that I think that incremental risk is worth it, getting directly to the deal. Right. Essentially by wholesale instead of, you know, the way most people invest through the retail investment market.
Yonatan Schmidt 15:41
Do you follow the same guidelines as with quarterly distributions to your LPs and so on and so forth. Or is it a little different?
Lane Kawaoka 15:51
Rates are a little bit different. I mean it depends on the prospectus of the fund. Right. Like like what I like to target is very specific business plans where, you know, like real simple one would be you’re going in, you’re buying a building, you’re improving the appliances, new new flooring, paint job, you know, 510 grand of renovations per unit. And you bump the rents up 100 bucks, right, to increase the NOI to sell it in 3 to 5 years.
That’s a standard business plan. Or you build something from scratch, right? We’re talking about a project that you’re going to go kind of near, right. That’s build up, ground up development, right? Nothing.
Just buying barren land. You you build up a property and you sell it. Right. That’s huge value add there. Yeah.
In these properties you you do it, you get in, you get out and you sell it right. Where a lot of these other assets that institutional firms like to buy or in these like institutional funds, typically they’re buying properties that have already been value added like it’s. The yields aren’t great, but there may be a little bit less hair on the deal. Those are the ones that they like because they have some lazy person in New York managing like a gazillion assets for them. So that’s what they like.
So it is a little bit less risk. But to me the risk is your market volatility. And if your market comes down 10% now you’re gone in that deal. Where if you’re going into a deal with a little bit more upside, you know, yeah, you’re exposed to going to the business plan. But you have you know, you’re creating that that buffer for you.
It’s no different than if you buy a beat up dilapidated house. You put 100 grand into it. You hope you’re you’re going to do that deal because you’re going to make 2 or 3 x 100 grand investment, right? Kind of that same concept, but in more in commercial assets, you know, and that’s how we try to get away from like little properties that mom and pop investors have access to under $5 million net worth. We’d like to get into commercial assets.
Yonatan Schmidt 17:53
They’re interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Let’s talk a little bit about AI. It’s it’s revolutionizing nearly every industry right now. How do you see AI intersecting with real estate investment, investing, wealth, education and you know, your own operation at The Wealth Elevator?
Lane Kawaoka 18:15
Yeah. So I have a lot of e-courses that I give away for free, like, you know, used to be when I first started to do my podcast back in 2016, I would teach people how to buy little rental properties remotely, you know, find guys like you to manage it, you know, go to the underwriting. People want to, you know, go to my website. It’s there for free. But I’ve been kind of thinking lately like, that requires a little bit of work, right?
At least a few hours to go through. Like, it kind of is maybe better just to put it on demand. And people just query the right questions. Although there’s always issues with like if you don’t know what you don’t know, you don’t know, ask the question, right? So maybe it’s better for you to go A to Z through the e-course.
But hey, people are lazy, right? So I think you know that creating a custom GPT is a project that definitely my team is working on right now. And then we’ve got like our main flagship product that again, we kind of, you know, people book calls with us and we get to know them. We typically unlock it for free. Is the syndication LP Due Diligence e-course.
That thing is a mouthful and certainly probably takes somebody over 10 to 12 hours, but I think it’s it really educates people to like if you might have owned rental properties, but if you’re looking at a syndication deal, like what do you look at? You know, how do you how do you validate the people running the deal? How do you validate the numbers? You know, you look at the reversion cap rate, exit cap rate in the underwriting. Like what are the good assumptions to assume.
So you know, like your operators not just being super overzealous with some other assumptions. So that’s what’s in there. I think we can get it to a point where you just upload the pitch deck and, you know, financials. And maybe it highlights good questions for you to ask. And then you go from there.
I’m a little bit wary of it. Like say is this a good deal. Right. Like that’s that’s setting yourself up for failure. I think, you know, because AI will just be biased and tell you what you want to hear, like an employee that thinks you’re going to fire them, but we’re not going to fire.
Right. Yeah. It’s here to stay. But I guess on our like on our operations side, like our role is to go find good deals out there and kind of source it. We certainly I mean, part of that is working with the right people and network.
So you don’t just get garbage. Right. But I think it certainly does a lot of job on sorting the financials and things like that. And that takes away a lot of like lower level stuff, like we used to have a lot of underwriting staff. Now we don’t really need that because AI does a pretty decent job of taking unstructured data and putting it somewhat structured.
At least you can preliminary start to create a piece together T12, for example. And then from there, you know, we plug it into our own home brew analyzer and we use our assumptions and we say, hey, is this what what do we think that this is going to run based our assumptions, not what the operator is doing, but what we think ourselves. And then from that we decide if we’re going to invest or not. But that’s that’s where the the line is. Like, I don’t want to use this AI thing to tell us whether we’re going to invest, which is why I feel, you know, at one point I was a little afraid.
It’s like, well, everybody’s just going to like upload documents, hit go, and they’re going to it’s going to be thumbs up or thumbs down. And it’s like, well, Then you’re going to have all these, like, ridiculous platforms out there where every like, new operator and syndicator is just going to put up their their investment, and it’s not going to be able to tell the difference between, like, fake it till you make it operators and sucker deals and the good deals and the good operators, and a lot of it just falls back to I think I feel comfortable in this world of investment, at least being a service provider that we are, that you’re always going to need to know the people, you always need to have personal relationships with people. There’s a real estate at the end of the day, and you’re always going to need to take this data, the raw data and interpret that. And I think that’s what our role in this whole thing is about.
Yonatan Schmidt 22:28
Yeah. Interesting. Tell us a little bit about how can investors get involved with any of your upcoming, you know, deals or masterminds. Is there room for international investors and what kind of check sizes are you looking for when bringing on new people.
Lane Kawaoka 22:45
Yeah. So we work with accredited investors. We typically will not bring in anybody on under 50, $100,000 or less. We find that those are the worst investors. Although, hey, if you’re new, you know, go through our content and get educated.
And maybe in five years when you’re ready to write real checks, let us know. You know, I’m always looking to build the relationship with people long term. But yeah, we I think the big thing is that we provide is like the community, right? There’s a lot of internet forums where people will pay to play, you know, the sponsorships, hidden sponsorships, kickbacks, etc. we don’t really play that game. So a lot of what I do is like, we’ll do events and we’ll have investors get to know other investors, and that’s something I, I enjoy.
And that’s really what opened me up to this whole world. You know, in 2015, I was just I had 11 rental properties and I thought I was hot stuff. And then I started to interact with all these other accredited investors, and I started to realize, like, whoa, there’s something well beyond owning a bunch of rental properties. There’s like and that that world is like what I distill today and our curriculum, which is the deals doing due diligence on deals, the taxes picture. Right.
You get all these passive losses, real estate professional status and then the infinite banking. And this trifecta was something that consistently came up over and over again as I started to haphazardly interact with a lot of our investors, and I was like, whoa, this is cool. And then I went back to my job on Monday and I was like, wow, this is so different, right? All these all the people in the world, we were saying earlier, and this is what I that’s that’s what I wanted to create for people like you. Look at all these investments.
And if you especially if you already own rental properties, you know, this stuff works, right? And you know what a sham the the retail investment market. They’re taking all the returns at the end of the day. And you know that there’s a better way of doing this if you do it directly. It’s hard to scale, but and that’s where the syndications and private placements come in.
But where do you get access to this? Well, it’s all people. So unfortunately if you’re a shy person, like how I was at one time, being an introverted engineer, you know, you probably don’t want to get from on the other side of your computer. You know, you have to put on some pants literally, right, and meet people. So I try to create events, you know, try and keep it fun, keep it pretty casual, you know, bring people out to Hawaii.
We do an annual retreat every year. I also vet everybody coming. Right. That’s why I require everybody to have an onboarding call with myself. So there’s no weirdos, right?
Yonatan Schmidt 25:32
Yeah.
Lane Kawaoka 25:34
But that was kind of what I wanted to create, right? With people that I vibe with and have similar values as myself and our community. And, you know, I think it’s fun, more fun kind of doing this with other people.
Yonatan Schmidt 25:47
Yeah, absolutely. Lane, thank you so much for, you know, educating me and educating our listeners. Really appreciate it. The Wealth Elevator will put the link to your website below for anyone who’s interested in learning more. If you have any questions, feel free to connect with Lane through his website.
Is that okay?
Lane Kawaoka 26:11
Yeah, yeah. And if you guys pick up the book on Amazon, you know, we’ll shoot us a receipt. I think a screenshot, a receipt to [email protected]. And then we’ll hook you up with the PDF and then the audiobook version too.
Yonatan Schmidt 26:26
Not bad. Thank you so much. Appreciate your time.
Outro 26:32
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